Subject: East Timorese occupation victims face fresh wait for justice
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East Timorese occupation victims face fresh wait for justice
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Updated November 12, 2008 10:23:36
East Timor's parliament has again postponed a debate over a report that
recommends justice and reparations for victims of crimes committed during
Indonesia's occupation of the country. President Jose Ramos-Horta has said he
wants all investigations and prosecutions for gross human rights violations
committed during the occupation dropped. But human rights advocates say that
decision should be left up to the country's citizens.
Presenter: Stephanie March
Speakers: East Timorese MP Fernanda Borges; Senior Advisor to the post CAVR
technical secretariat Patrick Walsh Listen: <http://www.abc.net.au/ra/programguide/stories/m1667857.asx>Windows
Media STEPHANIE MARCH: 18 years ago today Indonesian soldiers opened fire on
pro-independence demonstrators in Dili's Santa Cruz cemetery. Victims groups
estimate hundreds of people were killed in the massacre. It was only one of many
gross human rights violations perpetrated during Indonesia's 24-year occupation
of East Timor. And like the thousands of other alleged killings and acts of
torture in that time, no one has ever been tried for what happened at Santa
Cruz.
Earlier this week, East Timor's parliament again postponed a debate over
recommendations made in the Commission for Reception, Truth and Reconciliation
report - a 2000 page investigation into the human rights violations committed
during the Indonesian occupation. MP Fernanda Borges is the head of a
parliamentary committee that oversees human rights and justice. It recently
passed a resolution approving the recommendations of the Commission for
Reception, Truth and Reconciliation report - or CAVR. But Ms Borges believes
further debate has been postponed to allow President Jose Ramos-Horta more time
to convince leaders of the major parties to water down the recommendations, and
even remove any calls to pursue prosecutions.
FERNANDA BORGES, MP: The way I see the issue evolving is not time needed to
read, it's more they don't want justice.
STEPHANIE MARCH: It's no secret that President Ramos-Horta doesn't want the
resolutions of the committee to be approved by parliament. He said recently that
he would like all investigations into crimes committed during the occupation and
the 1999 referendum violence to stop. East Timor's constitution recognises the
report, and it also recognises the need for a national, or international court,
to try people for any crimes committed. Fernanda Borges says it's not up to
leaders like President Ramos Horta, to decide whether or not justice is done.
FERNANDA BORGES: He wants to forget about justice for the whole period with
the argument that if the Indonesians don't get justice then we don't get it. But
that is a different issue.
STEPHANIE MARCH: Ms Borges says there are many unresolved internal justice
issues that have yet to be dealt with.
FERNANDA BORGES: We have people that live next door to someone that has raped
their child, killed one of their brothers and sisters, and they can't see eye to
eye. They are waiting for the day when they can see that person prosecuted in
the courts.
STEPHANIE MARCH: The commission finished in 2005, and handed its final report
to then-president Xanana Gusmao at the end of that year. A body called the post-CAVR
Technical Secretariat continues to maintain the commission's archives and
distribution of the report. Senior advisor to the post-CAVR Patrick Walsh says
some politicians are reluctant to see the report's recommendations passed
because they see preserving good relations between East Timor and Indonesia as
more important. Another body - the Commission for Truth and Friendship - was set
up by both governments to investigate crimes committed in 1999, but without a
mandate to recommend there be prosecutions. Patrick Walsh says some politicians
view that bilateral commission as the final response from the states on the
historic crimes.
PATRICK WALSH: And there is an understanding on Timor's part that it has
given an assurance to Indonesia that it will not prosecute on those crimes, or
any crimes committed by Indonesia prior to that period.
STEPHANIE MARCH: But pursuing justice is not the only issue. There are other
recommendations from the CAVR report to set up an institution to look after the
needs of victims, and to archive statements made to the original commission by
10,000 victims.
PATRICK WALSH: They are very important to the victims, that is their life
story, if you like. It has been entrusted to us. We feel a huge moral and other
obligation to care for those testimonies.
STEPHANIE MARCH: The new institution would also distribute the contents of
its report to all East Timorese citizens through media and school programs. It
would also help in facilitating reparations for victims.
PATRICK WALSH: Most Timorese including MPs react in shock and horror at the
recommendation because they immediately interpret it to mean a handout to every
person in Timor who would claim to be a victim, and that, of course, is most of
the people.
STEPHANIE MARCH: But he says the commission's reparations are not about
financial compensation, but restoring the dignity of victims who continue to be
disadvantaged by their experiences between 1974 and 1999.
PATRICK WALSH: A lot of it is about referral. It is about referring somebody
who lost a limb, or who is mentally traumatised, making sure they get proper
medical attention.
STEPHANIE MARCH: But all this risks being lost, if politicians keep delaying
the parliamentary debate, over the issue of justice.
© 2008 Australian Broadcasting Corporation
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