| Subject: ABC: Mystery surrounds Reinado,
Ramos-Horta relationship
Also Emotions run high at Alfredo Reinado's funeral
ABC Radio Australia - 15/02/2008
ETIMOR: Mystery surrounds Reinado, Ramos-Horta relationship
Authorities in East Timor are discouraging people from speculating
about how and why the attacks happened. However, it does appear that a
conflict between long time friends Jose Ramos-Horta and the rebel fugitive
Alfredo Reinado was emerging in the lead up to the attacks.
Presenter - Stephanie March Speaker - Joaquim Fonseca, advisor to Prime
Minister; "Jose", petitioning soldier.
Reinado had been engaged in peaceful talks with both East Timor's
President and Prime Minister as recently as December 2007, and last met
with government officials on February 6th.
Joaquim Fornseka is the Prime Mininsters's civil society advisor and
was in charge of the Task Force set up to resolve Reinado and the
petitioning solders problems.
FORNSEKA: For two years, no body actually cared about the petitioners
but no real effort was made to resolve their problems. In that situation
of desperation, if you like, Alfredo came up as their hero.
Around 600 of the country's Military left their barracks in 2006 saying
they were victims of discrimination.
Set up by the government, the Task Force has been mediating discussions
between the petitioners and the commanders of the FFDTL.
Mr Fornseka says they had come a long way in getting the FFDTL to agree
to allow the petitioning soldiers to re apply in order to be reinstated to
the army.
But it seems that Reinado wanted more.
Mr Fornseka said it's possible, that in the lead up to the attacks
Reinado was becoming unhappy with the President and way the dialogue was
heading.
FORNSEKA: The president - I don't blame the President - but there were
some concessions that could not be delivered - and I think he felt
betrayed in a way.
He believes when the President and AR last met in the mountain town of
Maubisse in December, the President promised AR he and his followers would
be allowed to be reinstated into the army without having to go through a
re-application process.
FORNSEKA: In Maubisse we understand the President said to Reinado that
there shouldn't be any application they should all just be re-enacted as
soldiers and officers of FDTL and that a screening process should be
carried out for both those who have left the army for sometimes and for
those who remained in the barracks. And that obviously - that's a new
demand - and its quite difficult for the command of FDTL to accommodate.
So obviously it cannot be delivered.
Joaquim Forneska also said that recent moves by the government to
entice Alfredo's supporters to join in dialogue without their leader, may
have angered him.
FORNSEKA: It could have upset him more. It could have upset him more
because it is not necessarily the number of people around him that he
cares about. It's about the fact that the myth that he tried to create is
broken, and it proved untrue.
The myth he talks about is Reinado's ability to solve the petitioners
problem.
According to Joquim Fornseka, Rienado had nothing to do with the
petitioning soldiers in the first place, but was using them as a
bargaining tool for his own situation.
But one of those petitioning soldiers, who wants only to be known by
the name Jose, is a strong supporter of Reinado.
JOSE: Since the attack on Monday, I've been very sad and I feel very
sorry for one of our best commanders who died in the attack.
He says unlike the 90 or so petitioners who have begun separate
dialogue with the government, he and his 500 comrades will continue to
fight for justice against discrimination in the military under the command
of Gastao Salshina, the former lieutenant who is suspected of leading the
attack against XG's convoy.
JOSE: The difference is our group that now I belong to led by Salshina
is a group of real petitioners who want to find a solution to the issue of
discrimination.
But Joaquim Forneseka believes many of Reinado's so-called supporters
felt threatened by him, and now the rebel leader is gone they will be more
inclined to join the group of petitioners engaging in dialogue.
FORNSEKA: The other thing, with the absence of Reinado it will remove
the fear factor from among the petitioners to join the program which the
government put in place.
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Emotions run high at Alfredo Reinado's funeral
15/02/2008
ABC Radio
Presenter - Anne Barker Speaker - Acting Commissioner of UN police
Herman Pritsing [sic]
There were emotional scenes in East Timor today, as supporters of
fugitive rebel leader Alfredo Reinado attended his funeral. Reinado was
shot dead on Monday as he and his supporters launched an assault on the
home of President Jose Ramos Horta. Security forces still don't know
whether the rebels' plan was to kill the president or kidnap him.
International forces - including Australian troops - are searching
mountainous territory to hunt down Reinado's many accomplices.
ANNE BARKER: The armed rebel who's caused so much grief for East Timor
was also a loved son and husband, and a hero to thousands of disaffected
youth.
Relatives, friends and sympathisers poured into the Reinado family home
in the Dili suburb of Marconi to mourn his death and say goodbye.
(sound of women crying and screaming)
Several times, the coffin was opened to show a handsome young man in a
smart suit, with a bullet wound near the left eye.
For security reasons, the family chose to bury Reinado in his own
backyard, side by side with another rebel killed in Monday's gunfight.
(Victor Alves speaking)
Reinado's stepfather, Victor Alves, says for all that his son did wrong
after deserting the army two years and leading a band of armed rebels, he
was man who stood for justice, and he harbours some resentment towards
East Timor's Government over his son's death.
"The Government asked Alfredo to serve his country", he said.
"They made him a military major. We agreed when the Government took
him alive to serve the country, but in the end, they brought a dead body
back to us. If he hadn't gone to serve the nation, perhaps he might still
be serving his family."
Reinado will forever be remembered as the man who led the attack on
President Jose Ramos-Horta, who was left close to death with multiple
bullet wounds to the lung and stomach.
But it may be that Reinado was killed even before the President arrived
home from his morning walk, just before 7.00am.
HERMANPRIT SINGH: This group probably came between 6.05 and 6.10am. It
took the entry into presidential compound and then there are events which
happened one after the other.
ANNE BARKER: The Acting Commissioner of UN Police in Dili, Hermanprit
Singh says investigators are still piecing together the sequence of
events.
HERMANPRIT SINGH: I cannot tell you in a compartmentalised way when
they entered the X-room, Y-room, when Reinado was shot. He may have died
before the President arrived.
ANNE BARKER: Do you believe the armed group went there specifically to
kill the President, or was there a plan to kidnap him or something else?
HERMANPRIT SINGH: That's why we are very careful about the wording. We
are saying we are investigating into assault on the residence of the
President, which the sequence of events, as it happened, led to shooting
of both Reinado as well as injuries to the President.
Now, the motives behind the group, what was the group motivated by,
whether they intended to abduct the President, whether they intended to
just overwhelm his authority and make some proclamation, or whether they
wanted to assassinate the President, it's a matter of investigation.
And there is no way we can either give the leads or we can achieve any
amount of finality at this stage.
ANNE BARKER: Investigators believe about 15 people took part in the two
attacks at the President's home, and on the motorcade carrying the Prime
Minister, Xanana Gusmao.
But so far, they have hard evidence against only five known suspects.
Arrest warrants are yet to be issued against all the men.
But Commissioner Singh has confirmed international forces are already
hunting them down.
HERMANPRIT SINGH: We don't need to wait. We, the international security
forces, are actually on the hot pursuit.
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