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Amy Goodman, Host
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May 13, 1999
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License To Kill In East Timor: the Indonesian military's Secret Agreement with Timor's Violent Militias

According to the number two commander of East Timor's notorious newly formed militias, the Indonesian armed forces (TNI-ABRI) have made a secret "accord" with the militias authorizing them to assassinate members of local independence groups. This according to journalist and human rights activist Allan Nairn, who was able to interview Herminio da Costa, chief of staff of thirteen Timorese militias.

Da Costa said that the accord, which has been in effect since late January, authorizes his men to "attack homes and interrogate and kill members of the CNRT and Fretilin" (pro-independence groups in East Timor) as long as the militias refrain from common crimes like "car theft and stealing food."

On May 5, Indonesia signed a United Nations deal pledging to stay neutral in the Timor vote for independence, scheduled for this coming July, and to enforce the law impartially. But two days after the accord was signed, da Costa told Nairn that as far as the militias knew, their accord with the military "remains in force."

GUEST: ALLAN NAIRN, Journalist and human rights activist. Together with Amy Goodman, he was banned from Indonesia and East Timor as a "threat to national security" after they witnessed and survived the Dili massacre of 1991. Arrested and deported last year and threatened with six years in prison, he recently re-entered Indonesia without the army's permission to report a series of articles for The Nation magazine. He speaks from Jakarta, the capital of Indonesia.

May 5, 1999
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SURVIVORS OF EAST TIMOR MASSACRE SPEAK OUT

With violence sweeping Indonesian-occupied East Timor, the foreign ministers of Indonesia and Portugal plan today to sign an accord that could lead to independence for the former Portuguese colony.

Yesterday, dozens of Timorese students demonstrated in Dili, the capital of East Timor, demanding that the UN meeting bring an end to terror in the occupied territory. Scores of people have been killed by Indonesian-armed and trained paramilitary death squads, and many supporters of independence have had to gone into hiding.

On April 6, Indonesian soldiers and paramilitary groups attacked thousands of refugees on the grounds of the Liquica church, killing between 25 and 200 people. Today we are joined by one of the survivors the recent Liquica massacre, as well as by someone who worked with the Indonesian military and managed to smuggle documents linking the Indonesian military with paramilitary death squads in East Timor. They are in Washington. We will not identify our Timorese guests by name on the Internet to protect their families still in East Timor.

Guests:
* Survivor of the Liquica massacre in East Timor just a few weeks ago.
* Timorese civilian who used to work for the Indonesian military. He turned over information that links the Indonesian military to paramilitary death squads in East Timor.
* Aryati, translating from Indonesian to English.
* Lynn Fredrickson, Head of the Washington office of the East Timor Action Network.

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