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EAST TIMOR:Questions over investigation into Dutch journalist's death
19/06/2002 17:20:00 | Asia Pacific Programs Audio: http://www.abc.net.au/ra/asiapac/programs/m411882.asx
The Dutch Government claims it has secured an agreement from Indonesia
that it will continue to investigate the murder of a Dutch journalist in
East Timor, almost three years ago. Earlier reports from the Dutch Embassy
in Jakarta said Indonesia's Attorney General's Department had shut down
its investigation into the murder of Financial Times journalist Sander
Thoenes, because of lack of evidence.
Transcript:
FITZGERALD: The killing of 30 year-old Dutch journalist Sander Thoenes
was just one amongst many carried out in East Timor in 1999. Sander was
riding pillion on a hired motorbike in Dili when he was shot in the back,
and his mutilated body was found the next morning. His motorbike driver
said their bike had been stopped by uniformed Indonesian soldiers, who'd
opened fire on Sander using automatic weapons. The UN and Dutch police
have identified a serving Indonesian military officer as the man named by
witnesses as Sander's killer. That hasn't influenced Indonesia's Attorney
General's Department though. It notified the Dutch Embassy in Jakarta last
week, the case has being closed due to lack of evidence. Angry Dutch
officials however now appear to have secured an assurance from the
Indonesian Foreign Minister Hasan Wirayuda that the case will remain open.
Dutch Foreign Minister Jozias Van Aartsen.
VAN AARTSEN: Contrary to what has been published at some stage in
Jakarta, Wirayuda assured me that the charges have not been dropped and
the procedure has not stopped, and that is important for international
journalism and for the Netherlands government of course because those
responsible for the murder of Sander Thoenes should be put on trial before
the ad hoc tribunal. Anyway that is our stance.
FITZGERALD: The news that this investigation isn't shut must come as a
relief to you, but it does contradict reports that are emerging from the
Indonesian Attorney General who says that the case is closed due to lack
of evidence. That seems to conflict.
VAN AARTSEN: Well it's quite clear to me, I have to deal with my
colleague of foreign affairs in Jakarta, I trust the Indonesian Minister
of Foreign Affairs Wirayuda that the case has not been dropped and that
they are going further to investigate the case. And the proof is that the
Attorney General's bureau invited the Foreign Minister. asked me to send
over the Dutch policeman who was investigating together with the
Indonesian authorities last year.
FITZGERALD: Despite the Dutch Minister's optimism it's unlikely
Indonesian police will arrest suspects in the killing. The Indonesian
soldier identified by the UN and the Dutch as the chief suspect, has been
recently promoted in the military, and responsibility for the crime may go
higher up the chain of military command. U-N reports have detailed the
murder of eleven East Timorese people on the same day Sanders was shot.
And the killings are thought to have been carried out by Indonesia's 745
battalion, which was retreating from the Los Palos area at the time and
had carried out an attack near where Sander's died, less than an hour
before his killing. The Dutch Foreign Minister says the next step is for
the UN and Dutch evidence to be reconciled with Indonesian evidence.
VAN AARTSEN: To bridge the gap between the UN, the Dutch experts and
the Bureau of the Attorney General in Jakarta, and if we can help them
we're happy to do that.
FITZGERALD: But wouldn't you have already done that over the past as
you say almost three years?
VAN AARTSEN: Well we have done everything that we could do and the
Indonesian government knows that the progress in this case is of much
importance for the enhancement of bilateral relationship between Indonesia
and the Netherlands, and is in fact of importance for the Indonesian
government in the eyes of the world.
FITZGERALD: Dutch courts for those involved in Sander's death to face a
human rights court are also unlikely to eventuate. The current courts have
yet to bring down a verdict in the case of three civil and military
officials charged with serious human rights abuses in East Timor and as
yet strong independent witnesses, such as UN officials and journalists
have not been called to give evidence.
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